We call her Emma | Tortoise Investigates
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We call her Emma | Tortoise Investigates

The Observer

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Emma is a high achieving, middle class girl from west London. She seems destined for a successful career in banking and a comfortable British life. Until she makes a decision that will come to define her. In 2001 Emma marries Bashar al-Assad - the now infamous dictator of Syria. In the early days, people inside and out of Syria dared to hope. Alongside his beautiful, progressive wife, Bashar promised to modernise the country. But when the Arab Spring reached Syria in 2011, Bashar's regime showed itself for what it really was: a brutal force, willing to capture and kill ordinary Syrians demanding change. And in all the years that a war raged on, Asma stands by her husband. She seemingly ignored the desperate pleas to stop her husband from killing his own people. But what did she really know about the atrocities her husband’s government was carrying out? And what choices did she really have? Some people allege that she actually assisted the regime and cashed in on the war, that she herself is a war criminal. Others say she tried to run away but was trapped, held hostage by a regime who threatened her life and her children. So, who is the real Emma? We call her Emma is a 6 part original series from Tortoise Investigates and The Observer. To binge listen to all episodes today, ad-free, subscribe to The Observer (https://observer.co.uk/subscribe/audio) and use the code AUDIO50 for 50% off an annual digital subscription. You'll get access to: • This series and all our podcasts before anyone else • Ad-free listening • A daily edition, curated by our editors 7 days a week • Puzzles from the inventors of the cryptic crossword • Recipes for every occasion • Free tickets to join Observer events in our newsroom or online Or subscribe to Observer+ on Apple Podcasts and Spotify for access to this series and ad-free listening to Observer podcasts. Reporter - Chloe Hadjimatheou Producer - Gary Marshall Sound design - Karla Patella Podcast artwork - Lola Williams & Eliza Bourner Executive producers - Jasper Corbett and Basia Cummings Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.

What this show covers

Syriaidentityinvestigative journalismAsma al-AssadInvestigative seriesPolitical powerfamily historyArab Springlegal adviceaccountabilityLemn Sissaycouncil delayscare systeminvestigative documentaryCamden

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Council delays push Nkechi to seek hard-won advice from care survivors
Nkechi faces mounting frustration over unclear answers and delays from the council. In this episode, she turns to poet Lemn Sissay for perspective on growing up in care, while a lawyer offers a striking recommendation on how to respond.
A return to Camden opens a personal search for the truth behind state care
Nkechi Simms returns to Camden with journalist Ashley John-Baptiste to investigate why she was taken into state care at 12. The first episode sets up a deeply personal search through childhood memories, unanswered questions, and the systems that shaped her life.
An actor searches her care records to understand why she was taken into foster care
Nkechi Simms begins a deeply personal search into her childhood after being placed in foster care at 12. As she tries to access her care records, the episode follows the obstacles in getting answers and the uncertainty of what those records might reveal.
The Lucky Boy case reaches a verdict
This episode delivers the jury’s verdict in the trial of Sally Anne Bowen, the teacher at the centre of Lucky Boy. Reporter Chloe Hadjimatheou, who has been following the trial for three weeks, calls producer Gary Marshall to share the outcome and what it means for the series.
How Peter Mandelson’s appointment became the start of a wider political reckoning
Peter Mandelson’s appointment as UK ambassador to the US opens a four-part investigation into power, vetting and political judgment in Britain. This first episode follows the paper trail that explains how he was appointed and why the fallout grew far beyond one diplomatic post.

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