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ChinaTalk
Podcast

ChinaTalk

Jordan Schneider

578 episodes

News & PoliticsTechnology

Conversations exploring China, technology, and US-China relations. Guests include a wide range of analysts, policymakers, and academics. Hosted by Jordan Schneider. Check out the newsletter at https://www.chinatalk.media/

What this show covers

AI policydefense procurementautonomyAGIAI safetymilitary AInational securityUkrainesupply chaindronesAnt Lingopen source AImodel evaluationUS-China competitionSemiconductors

What listeners will find here

How DIU wants to turn drone urgency into real orders, scale, and autonomy
Drone Dominance is the focus here, as Travis Metz explains why the Pentagon still struggles to buy and field drones fast enough. The conversation digs into Gauntlet competitions, lessons from Ukraine, supply-chain weak points, and how autonomy under electronic attack could reshape force structure.
Why Ant’s Richard Bian sees AGI as inevitable—and open source as the real strategy
Richard Bian discusses AGI, open models, and how product thinking shapes AI strategy at Ant. He argues that incidents like the Hugging Face hack reveal progress as much as risk, and makes the case for better evaluations, broader perspectives, and open source as a business lever.
Saif Khan on DUV controls, AI policy, and the next US-China tech battleground
AI export controls and the US-China chip balance sit at the center of this conversation with Saif Khan. He discusses why he launched a new think tank, how DUV restrictions could shape AI capacity into the 2030s, and how research turns into real policy.
An unfiltered crossover on China, AI, corruption, and politics
China, AI, corruption, and politics drive this loose, high-energy crossover conversation with Matt Yglesias and Jerusalem Demsas. It sounds broad, opinionated, and intentionally a little unhinged, with the appeal centered on chemistry as much as the topics.
Why AGI may have been won by conviction as much as code
Kevin Roose joins ChinaTalk to discuss AGI Chronicles, his history of OpenAI, Anthropic, DeepMind, and the people who pursued AGI before it was fashionable. The conversation explores belief, rivalry, geopolitics, and why AI now feels like a power struggle as much as a technology story.

Episodes

Drone Dominance | Travis Metz - DIU Acting Director
Drone Dominance | Travis Metz - DIU Acting Director
17 Oct 2026 · 1h 22m
Why a Chinese AI Lab’s Product Lead Thinks AGI is “Inevitable” | Richard Bian
Why a Chinese AI Lab’s Product Lead Thinks AGI is “Inevitable” | Richard Bian
16 Oct 2026 · 1h 13m
From Posting to Policy: Saif Khan on DUV and the AI Balance
From Posting to Policy: Saif Khan on DUV and the AI Balance
15 Oct 2026 · 59 min
Matt Yglesias + Jerusalem Demsas + Jordan Crossover Pod
Matt Yglesias + Jerusalem Demsas + Jordan Crossover Pod
12 Oct 2026 · 1h 7m
AGI Believers: Kevin Roose on the Race
AGI Believers: Kevin Roose on the Race
8 Oct 2026 · 1h 10m
Data is the Hard Part | Building AI Tools for the Military
Data is the Hard Part | Building AI Tools for the Military
6 Oct 2026 · 42 min
WarTalk: AutoWarCom + Project Meridian
WarTalk: AutoWarCom + Project Meridian
5 Oct 2026 · 55 min
Section 301 and the Spice Man who Sued Trump Over Them
Section 301 and the Spice Man who Sued Trump Over Them
2 Oct 2026 · 1h 5m
China's Economy is Broken | Logan Wright
China's Economy is Broken | Logan Wright
28 Sept 2026 · 1h 28m
WarTalk: Potemkin Pacific, Midterm Budget Woes
WarTalk: Potemkin Pacific, Midterm Budget Woes
25 Sept 2026 · 1h 12m
Julian Gewirtz on Trump-Xi Summit, AI, and Mao Dead Fifty Years Ago!
Julian Gewirtz on Trump-Xi Summit, AI, and Mao Dead Fifty Years Ago!
22 Sept 2026 · 1h 6m
Can AI Beat the Pentagon’s Bureaucracy?
Can AI Beat the Pentagon’s Bureaucracy?
22 Sept 2026 · 49 min
WarTalk: PLA, 2027, Nukes, and the Pivot to Asia Pirouette
WarTalk: PLA, 2027, Nukes, and the Pivot to Asia Pirouette
19 Sept 2026 · 1h 17m
ModelTalk: Pacing the Frontier
ModelTalk: Pacing the Frontier
15 Sept 2026 · 1h 8m
WarTalk: 9.11, Death of the Army,  So Long Dan Driscoll
WarTalk: 9.11, Death of the Army, So Long Dan Driscoll
11 Sept 2026 · 1h 11m
WarTalk: GWOT at 25 with Wesley Morgan
WarTalk: GWOT at 25 with Wesley Morgan
5 Sept 2026 · 1h 21m
Cyber Apocalypse, Now? Hugging Face and the Future of Cyber Risk
Cyber Apocalypse, Now? Hugging Face and the Future of Cyber Risk
2 Sept 2026 · 1h 10m
WarTalk: USN Readiness Reckoning, Steampunk Navy, and AI Cyberwar with Shashank of the Economist
WarTalk: USN Readiness Reckoning, Steampunk Navy, and AI Cyberwar with Shashank of the Economist
29 Aug 2026 · 1h 4m
How AI Becomes a Political Crisis
How AI Becomes a Political Crisis
24 Aug 2026 · 1h 8m
Lessons from the American Civil War
Lessons from the American Civil War
21 Aug 2026 · 1h 32m
North Korea's Messiah
North Korea's Messiah
19 Aug 2026 · 1h 59m
The Rise of China’s Electric Vehicle Industry
The Rise of China’s Electric Vehicle Industry
17 Aug 2026 · 1h 54m
China's Best Music in 2026 (So Far)
China's Best Music in 2026 (So Far)
14 Aug 2026 · 54 min
$75k Contest Launch! ChinaTalk Hiring + Evals for the Situation Room
$75k Contest Launch! ChinaTalk Hiring + Evals for the Situation Room
10 Aug 2026 · 48 min
WarTalk: Out of Ammo for Real + Are CCAs Dumb?
WarTalk: Out of Ammo for Real + Are CCAs Dumb?
7 Aug 2026 · 1h 17m
The FCC's New Robot Rules
The FCC's New Robot Rules
6 Aug 2026 · 51 min
Jordan talks AI with Sebastian Mallaby on his show 'The Spillover'
Jordan talks AI with Sebastian Mallaby on his show 'The Spillover'
1 Aug 2026 · 1h 20m
WarTalk: Odyssey Edition
WarTalk: Odyssey Edition
30 Jul 2026 · 1h 28m
The Iran War Oil Shock That Wasn’t...(Yet?)
The Iran War Oil Shock That Wasn’t...(Yet?)
26 Jul 2026 · 1h 6m
WarTalk: Iran War Back On, Rogue AI, Ukraine Civ-Mil
WarTalk: Iran War Back On, Rogue AI, Ukraine Civ-Mil
24 Jul 2026 · 1h 3m
Kimi K3, Xi's Speech, and China's Mythos Moment
Kimi K3, Xi's Speech, and China's Mythos Moment
22 Jul 2026 · 59 min
WarTalk: Ancient Greece Edition!
WarTalk: Ancient Greece Edition!
21 Jul 2026 · 2h 0m
China's Mythos Moment
China's Mythos Moment
15 Jul 2026 · 1h 10m
WarTalk: Iran + Randy Schriver on Asian Defense
WarTalk: Iran + Randy Schriver on Asian Defense
10 Jul 2026 · 1h 2m
The Chemicals Powering the Chip Industry
The Chemicals Powering the Chip Industry
7 Jul 2026 · 1h 18m
Unitree and the Humanoid Robot Revolution
Unitree and the Humanoid Robot Revolution
4 Jul 2026 · 52 min
Taiwan's War on Renewables [Fully Produced Radio Show!]
Taiwan's War on Renewables [Fully Produced Radio Show!]
30 Jun 2026 · 1h 15m
WarTalk: Jack Murphy of Team House on Donahue + SOF
WarTalk: Jack Murphy of Team House on Donahue + SOF
26 Jun 2026 · 1h 9m
Economic Security Megapod!
Economic Security Megapod!
24 Jun 2026 · 1h 19m
Rare Earths: What is To Be Done?
Rare Earths: What is To Be Done?
22 Jun 2026 · 59 min
WarTalk with Ely Ratner on Iran War Peace + the 'BS' US-China Stalemate
WarTalk with Ely Ratner on Iran War Peace + the 'BS' US-China Stalemate
19 Jun 2026 · 1h 17m
AI for Science!
AI for Science!
17 Jun 2026 · 49 min
Emergency Pod: Claude Fable Fried + What's Going on at BIS?
Emergency Pod: Claude Fable Fried + What's Going on at BIS?
15 Jun 2026 · 1h 10m
ModelTalk: Claude Fable (Nathan's pissed), is AI actually productive, advice for graduates
ModelTalk: Claude Fable (Nathan's pissed), is AI actually productive, advice for graduates
12 Jun 2026 · 55 min
Sen. Slotkin on NDAA, AI Nukes, Chinese Cars, and Taiwan
Sen. Slotkin on NDAA, AI Nukes, Chinese Cars, and Taiwan
11 Jun 2026 · 31 min
Paul Kennedy on Great Powers, Past and Present
Paul Kennedy on Great Powers, Past and Present
8 Jun 2026 · 1h 18m
WarTalk: The View from AFRICOM with LTG Brennan
WarTalk: The View from AFRICOM with LTG Brennan
5 Jun 2026 · 1h 3m
The Pope has AI Takes
The Pope has AI Takes
1 Jun 2026 · 50 min
WarTalk: NatSec in Congress + AI Evals for War
WarTalk: NatSec in Congress + AI Evals for War
29 May 2026 · 48 min
Arizona's Abundance Playbook
Arizona's Abundance Playbook
28 May 2026 · 59 min

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