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What listeners will find here
A calmer way to think about A.I.: revolutionary, but not beyond history
Artificial intelligence is the subject here, with Princeton professor Arvind Narayanan arguing it may be better understood as a powerful but familiar kind of technology. The conversation explores whether A.I. is truly unprecedented or whether past technological revolutions offer a usable roadmap.
Why an OpenAI safety insider walked away from the AI race
OpenAI’s former safety-report lead, David Robinson, explains why he resigned and why he now believes the company and the wider A.I. industry lack the safety culture needed for what they’re building. The conversation traces how his views shifted from seeing A.I. as useful to worrying about catastrophic risk.
Why so much of modern life feels drab—and who has an answer for it
This episode asks whether the world is actually getting uglier, from bland apartment blocks and same-looking cars to the spread of “greige” in homes and fashion. Ezra Klein talks with designer Debbie Millman about aesthetics, politics and why the right seems to have a clearer story about beauty than the left.
Bill Gates argues A.I. risks are bigger, nearer, and harder to ignore
Bill Gates makes a forceful case that A.I. alarmism still understates the danger. The conversation centers on cyberattacks, bioterrorism, job loss and why he sees government action—not industry self-regulation—as essential.
Abdul El-Sayed on faith, Medicare for all, and the Democrats’ future
Abdul El-Sayed’s Senate run becomes a lens on religion, health care, Israel-Palestine, and whether left-wing populism can win in Michigan. This episode aims to replace campaign heat with a longer conversation about his background, beliefs, and what he’d do in office.
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