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The Rest Is Politics: Leading
Podcast

The Rest Is Politics: Leading

Goalhanger

213 episodes

News & Politics

The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change. The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.

What this show covers

UK politicsBrexitUS politicswealth taxinequalitydefenceforeign policyEU relationsPolitical transparencyAndy BurnhamKeir StarmerPalestine Actionsmall boatsfaith and public dutyShabana Mahmood

What listeners will find here

Andy Burnham on Starmer, Europe, transparency and the politics of outrage
Andy Burnham joins Alastair and Rory for a wide-ranging political conversation touching on Britain’s relationship with the EU, transparency after the Manchester City meetings row, and whether the UK should respond to a planned US livestreamed execution. It looks set to mix big constitutional questions with the emotional pressures of modern politics.
Shabana Mahmood on Palestine Action, small boats, faith and Labour power
Shabana Mahmood joins Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell to tackle the legality of banning Palestine Action, the limits on returning small boats to France, and whether faith can sit alongside public duty in British politics. It promises a wide-ranging conversation at the heart of government.
Mustafa Suleyman on whether AI can remain under human control
Artificial intelligence, autonomy, and legal status are at the center of this conversation with Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman. Rory Stewart presses him on whether advanced models can stay subordinate, whether constitutional guardrails create new risks, and how society should think about AI rights.
Gordon Brown on crisis leadership, social fracture, and rebuilding global cooperation
Gordon Brown joins Rory and Alastair to reflect on leading the UK through the global financial crisis, the decline of civic belonging, and what that means for politics today. The episode also looks at how middle powers might work together to balance the influence of China and the USA.
Sanna Marin on NATO, leadership at 34, and the party scandal that went global
Finland’s turn toward NATO after Putin’s war in Ukraine sits at the center of this conversation with former prime minister Sanna Marin. It also explores her rise to office at 34 and the private-party dancing scandal that became an international political story.

Episodes

210.  Andy Burnham: My Relationship With Starmer, Brexit Lies and Emotion in Politics
210. Andy Burnham: My Relationship With Starmer, Brexit Lies and Emotion in Politics
11 Oct 2026 · 1h 14m
209. Shabana Mahmood: Palestine Action, Faith and What I Told Starmer
209. Shabana Mahmood: Palestine Action, Faith and What I Told Starmer
4 Oct 2026 · 1h 17m
208. Mustafa Suleyman: Is AI Actually Conscious?
208. Mustafa Suleyman: Is AI Actually Conscious?
27 Sept 2026 · 1h 4m
207. Gordon Brown: How to Fix a Fracturing World
207. Gordon Brown: How to Fix a Fracturing World
20 Sept 2026 · 56 min
206. How Putin's War Changed Finland Forever (Sanna Marin)
206. How Putin's War Changed Finland Forever (Sanna Marin)
13 Sept 2026 · 58 min
205. Anthony Scaramucci: Why America Keeps Making the Same Mistakes
205. Anthony Scaramucci: Why America Keeps Making the Same Mistakes
6 Sept 2026 · 1h 0m
204. Will a Wealth Tax Actually Fix Britain? (Dan Neidle)
204. Will a Wealth Tax Actually Fix Britain? (Dan Neidle)
30 Aug 2026 · 1h 6m
203. The Man Taking On Infantino: UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin
203. The Man Taking On Infantino: UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin
23 Aug 2026 · 50 min
202. Is Peace in the Middle East Closer Than We Think? (A Palestinian & An Israeli's View)
202. Is Peace in the Middle East Closer Than We Think? (A Palestinian & An Israeli's View)
16 Aug 2026 · 1h 15m
201. How Westminster Breaks Politicians and Why Britain Isn't Ready for War
201. How Westminster Breaks Politicians and Why Britain Isn't Ready for War
9 Aug 2026 · 1h 16m
200. Count Binface: Nigel Farage's Biggest Threat?
200. Count Binface: Nigel Farage's Biggest Threat?
2 Aug 2026 · 42 min
199. Is Trump's Chaos Pushing Iceland Towards the EU? (Prime Minister of Iceland, Kristrún Frostadóttir)
199. Is Trump's Chaos Pushing Iceland Towards the EU? (Prime Minister of Iceland, Kristrún Frostadóttir)
26 Jul 2026 · 1h 5m
198. How Trump’s Imperial Presidency Really Works
198. How Trump’s Imperial Presidency Really Works
19 Jul 2026 · 52 min
197. The Billionaire Tax Debate (Gabriel Zucman)
197. The Billionaire Tax Debate (Gabriel Zucman)
12 Jul 2026 · 1h 11m
196. How America Talks Itself Into Endless Wars
196. How America Talks Itself Into Endless Wars
5 Jul 2026 · 1h 12m
195. Can the West Reclaim its Power from Trump? (Malcolm Turnbull)
195. Can the West Reclaim its Power from Trump? (Malcolm Turnbull)
28 Jun 2026 · 1h 10m
194. Is Putin Losing His Grip on Russia?
194. Is Putin Losing His Grip on Russia?
21 Jun 2026 · 1h 3m
193. James Cleverly: Why Has There Been A Radical Shift On The Right?
193. James Cleverly: Why Has There Been A Radical Shift On The Right?
14 Jun 2026 · 1h 18m
192.  Are We On The Brink Of World War III? (Odd Arne Westad)
192. Are We On The Brink Of World War III? (Odd Arne Westad)
7 Jun 2026 · 1h 2m
191. Is It Already Too Late to Control AI? (Anthropic Co-Founder, Jack Clark)
191. Is It Already Too Late to Control AI? (Anthropic Co-Founder, Jack Clark)
31 May 2026 · 1h 7m
190. How the Media Still Misunderstands Trump (Tina Brown)
190. How the Media Still Misunderstands Trump (Tina Brown)
24 May 2026 · 1h 12m
189. Rahm Emanuel: China, Technology, and the Future of the Democratic Party
189. Rahm Emanuel: China, Technology, and the Future of the Democratic Party
17 May 2026 · 1h 13m
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)
188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)
10 May 2026 · 1h 8m
187. Yanis Varoufakis: How The 2008 Crisis Revived Far-Right Populism
187. Yanis Varoufakis: How The 2008 Crisis Revived Far-Right Populism
3 May 2026 · 1h 17m
186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU
186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU
26 Apr 2026 · 1h 6m
185. Can Labour Win Back Scotland? (Anas Sarwar)
185. Can Labour Win Back Scotland? (Anas Sarwar)
19 Apr 2026 · 1h 2m
184. President of Ukraine: Volodymyr Zelenskyy
184. President of Ukraine: Volodymyr Zelenskyy
9 Apr 2026 · 52 min
183. From Bradford to Westminster: Faith, Identity, and Power (Naz Shah)
183. From Bradford to Westminster: Faith, Identity, and Power (Naz Shah)
5 Apr 2026 · 1h 10m
182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride)
182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride)
29 Mar 2026 · 1h 5m
181. Ai Weiwei: China, Censorship, and Dissidence Through Art
181. Ai Weiwei: China, Censorship, and Dissidence Through Art
23 Mar 2026 · 1h 7m
180. The Only European Leader Defying Trump? (Pedro Sánchez)
180. The Only European Leader Defying Trump? (Pedro Sánchez)
16 Mar 2026 · 1h 15m
179. President Stubb: Trump’s Unlikely Best Friend
179. President Stubb: Trump’s Unlikely Best Friend
9 Mar 2026 · 41 min
178. Gavin Newsom: The Next President Of The United States?
178. Gavin Newsom: The Next President Of The United States?
2 Mar 2026 · 54 min
177. Olaf Scholz: Putin, Power, and Far-Right Populism
177. Olaf Scholz: Putin, Power, and Far-Right Populism
23 Feb 2026 · 59 min
176. How Close Are We To War With Iran? (Robert Malley)
176. How Close Are We To War With Iran? (Robert Malley)
16 Feb 2026 · 1h 8m
175. Ex-Director of GCHQ: China, Russia, and the Threats Facing the UK (Jeremy Fleming)
175. Ex-Director of GCHQ: China, Russia, and the Threats Facing the UK (Jeremy Fleming)
9 Feb 2026 · 1h 10m
174. Taking On Europe's Last Dictator: The Fight Against Lukashenko and Putin
174. Taking On Europe's Last Dictator: The Fight Against Lukashenko and Putin
6 Feb 2026 · 29 min
173. The man Putin can’t silence: Bill Browder and sanctioning Russia
173. The man Putin can’t silence: Bill Browder and sanctioning Russia
2 Feb 2026 · 50 min
172. Neil Kinnock: Trump, Thatcher, and Why Labour Lost In 1992 (Part 2)
172. Neil Kinnock: Trump, Thatcher, and Why Labour Lost In 1992 (Part 2)
26 Jan 2026 · 1h 4m
171. Neil Kinnock: A Labour Rebel’s Path To Power (Part 1)
171. Neil Kinnock: A Labour Rebel’s Path To Power (Part 1)
19 Jan 2026 · 1h 12m
170. President of Moldova, Maia Sandu: Holding the Line Between Democracy and Putin
170. President of Moldova, Maia Sandu: Holding the Line Between Democracy and Putin
12 Jan 2026 · 1h 9m
169. Jimmy Wales: Wikipedia vs. Musk, AI, and the Battle for Truth
169. Jimmy Wales: Wikipedia vs. Musk, AI, and the Battle for Truth
5 Jan 2026 · 1h 13m
168. A Climate Special: Populism, Security, and Leadership
168. A Climate Special: Populism, Security, and Leadership
29 Dec 2025 · 59 min
167. Faith, Depression, and Finding Calm in the Chaos (Professor Mark Williams)
167. Faith, Depression, and Finding Calm in the Chaos (Professor Mark Williams)
22 Dec 2025 · 1h 5m
166. John Swinney: Identity, Independence, and The Future of Scotland
166. John Swinney: Identity, Independence, and The Future of Scotland
15 Dec 2025 · 1h 14m
165. Anna Wintour: Culture, Influence, and the Power of Decisive Leadership
165. Anna Wintour: Culture, Influence, and the Power of Decisive Leadership
8 Dec 2025 · 1h 13m
164. Zack Polanski: Do The Greens Have What It Takes?
164. Zack Polanski: Do The Greens Have What It Takes?
1 Dec 2025 · 1h 19m
163.  Prison Reform, Masculinity, and Restorative Justice (James Graham and Jacob Dunne)
163. Prison Reform, Masculinity, and Restorative Justice (James Graham and Jacob Dunne)
24 Nov 2025 · 1h 10m
162. Gareth Southgate: Patriotism, Leadership, and How To Inspire Young Men
162. Gareth Southgate: Patriotism, Leadership, and How To Inspire Young Men
17 Nov 2025 · 1h 1m
161. Putin, Trump, and 500 Years of Resisting Russia (Radek Sikorski)
161. Putin, Trump, and 500 Years of Resisting Russia (Radek Sikorski)
10 Nov 2025 · 57 min

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